I have recently come to appreciate Lee C. Camp and his No Small Endeavor podcast (among other endeavors of his). His most recent podcast episode (as of March 27, 2025) was with Drew Holcomb. Drew Holcomb, Ellie Holcomb, and those Neighbors of theirs are some of my favorite musicians, so I decided to give it a listen. I’m glad I did.
Prior to this, my awareness of the Holcombs was primarily because I appreciated their music. They both have music careers of their own and often work together, which is the music of theirs I appreciate the most. I learned that Drew Holcomb has a masters in theology from St. Andrews University. I learned that there is such a genre of music as Americana – I’d never heard of it before. (I suppose that says more about my awareness of the music world than anything else.) I learned some things about Drew Holcomb’s backstory that deepened my appreciation of his music quite a lot. I note that Lee C. Camp is a hospitable interviewer who opens the way to deeper conversation than is the norm. All in all, it was an interview that made my morning. Quite encouraging!
There’s an earlier interview of Drew Holcomb on this same podcast that is, shall we say, a bit more emotionally intense. It addresses the subject of vulnerability in art. I listened to it earlier. Of course, that led me to listening to the more recent interview this morning. A second portion of this earlier episode is an interview with Audrey Assad.
The triggering event for all of this was Lee C. Camp being interviewed by Skye Jethani on the Holy Post podcast (at about the 56 minute mark). That interview was also quite good, motivating me to connect with No Small Endeavor, where I noticed Lee C. Camp had interviewed Drew Holcomb, among many others I find intriguing.
Maybe my note here will trigger your interest in No Small Endeavor, Drew Holcomb and the Neighbors, or Ellie Holcomb. All are worth checking out. The Holcombs have topped my music listening list for two or three years now.